Clydes 72 2.5ST recreation project

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As for shaping metal I'm sure thats right but not currently mostly removing it and replacing it with fibreglass or fibreglass and balsa wood in the case of the bonnet!!!

Alloy door skins, attached with large head rivets as per factory, are happening.

Yes he should burn that rubbish your right I will get it removed.

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they can shape steel down there. why not aluminum doors like the yellow car?! would save at least 1.75kgs....

can you talk to Dave about that flag on his western wall?

Have a look at the centre of the Porsche badge

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OK I give up what Porsche badge??

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OK I give up what Porsche badge??

Jeff was referring to the flag of a prancing horse on Dave's wall...

[Garvs]

alum doors, nice.

i saw dave working on the yellow car after bowe got t-boned (from memory) and its impressive craftsmanship. out of interest, how much weight do alum doors actually save?

badge, i was way off. noted.

i should note, I am not 'anti-prancing italian' - am getting dave to work on a 'little' ferrari project for me........

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OK I give up what Porsche badge??

This one Clyde.

As I said, its a symbol relating to Stuttgart that goes way back. Here is a brief explanation of the origins of the horses on both the Ferrari badge and the Porsche crest:

" The prancing horse featured on the Ferrari logo was the emblem of Italian WWI flying ace Fancesco Baracca, whose parents persuaded Enzo Ferrari to use the symbol of their late son for his Alfa Romeo race cars. When Ferrari later started his own car company, he continued use of this logo. Note that the logo shown here is technically the logo of the racing team, Scuderia Ferrari, though you will see it appear on the front fenders of many modern road-going Ferraris. The official company logo is the rectangular version encompasing the same prancing horse.

The Porsche badge is the coat of arms of the city of Stuttgart (where the cars are built). The city was built on the site of a stud farm, which explains the horse in the coat of arms; the antlers and red and black stripes are part of the arms of the Kingdom of Wurttemberg. ""

Everybody happy ?

[e72phil]

More Porsche badge trivia:

"Laid over this is the simpler Stuttgart
coat of arms, with the city's name above it. The word comes from
Stout garten - stud garden or, in modern parlance, stud farm. Horses
had been bred in that area for around 1,000 years and that's why the
crest shows a rampant horse at its center, There is, apparently, an
heraldic link between this horse and the famous (and remarkably
similar) 'prancing horse' which adorns Ferraris and was once the
coat of arms of Francesco Baracca, a First World War pilot, curved
right across the top of the badge is the word 'Porsche' in bold capitals."

Prior to the badge being used on Porsches, the company had to get
approval by the relevant city and state authorities. Once such approval
was obtained, the badge appeared on the 356s in 1953. At this time,
however, the badge was placed only on the steering wheel hub as the
bonnet continued to have the 'Porsche' lettering. The next year,
the badge was placed proudly on the chrome grab handle located on
the bonnet (hood).

When the 911 arrived in 1963, the enameled badge was put on the new
car's bonnet where it has remained ever since. The badge has undergone
some minor tweaking over the years. In 1995 the 'Porsche' lettering
was made thinner and it was made black to better stand out from the gold
background (previously the 'Porsche' lettering was gold on the gold
background). Additionally, the badge was slightly tweaked to give it
a more modern appearance.

From the beginning, 911s have had the Porsche crest on the steering
wheel hub. However, this proud symbol was lost in 1984 when the
3.2 Carrera received a four-spoke steering wheel with the word
'Porsche' stamped across it. Happily, the badge returned to the
steering wheel with the 993 model in 1993. The 996's three spoke
steering wheel gained a full color gold and red badge - an attractive
feature that continues on the most recent 997 cars.

So the next time you happen to see the 'Porsche' badge, you know its
full bodied story that is over 50 years old. It is another of Ferry Porsche's
designs that proudly has stood the test of time!

[Garvs]

happy. you had me at stuttgart, but awesome detail all the same.

back on thread - one more clyde, have I missed it / dare I ask; whats the target 'on road date?'

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Doh ....I get it now thansk for the lesson Phil

Garvs....Aiming for 356 day in November but I suspect my uncertainty about which way to go with the engine (MFI v carbs and then all the chasing of the right bits depending on the decision) and my desire to replicate exactly how a 72ST would have looked will probably mean its still a freddie flinstone car at that stage and probably until well into the next year as well but you never know.

Still good to have an aim at least!!!

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Jeff, that little pedal car is fantastic! I've been looking for one for my little bloke. Can't wait to see how it turns out.

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Not much to update this week except I found one of the 72 only front oil coolers I need for the project.

The had a larger fitting (30mm) than either before or after.....great!!!

LHS ones are like rocking horse poop so have to find another RHS one and convert the attaching tabs to make it a LHD one then comes the horrid task of making/copying all the hard lines and short flexible lines to join both coolers into the loop.

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A bit has been going on in the last 2 weeks

Found a pair of 7" rims to match the 9's I had and they hae been sent to harvey for refinishing in correct RSR style finish

Found a steering wheel, 380mm, that arguably is a correct RS wheel.

I have read a lengthy debate on this subject some time ago on Early S and while both RS cars I have owned had wheels with 806 10 codes it is argued that many came with 805 10 codes. This wheel is an 805 10 code.

In any event it has the correct 911 cancelling ring and I have the horn push button courtesy of deal with Chris Heal and its been redone in the thicker style with correct stitching.

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Car has made some progress also.

The corners of the front windscreen area have been repeired so too has an area in the luggage compartment.

Temporary bonnet was fitted to check gaps on front guards and doors with the fibreglass front guards in place.

Dave is reshaping Turbo flares to ST style using all the old methods including metal shrinking so will be great to watch the progress.

The shape for the alloy door skins has been cut as you can see in the pics

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My part of the deal started last Thursday 6.5 hrs solid of stripping body deadner off the underneath of the floor pan with heat gun, wire brush, scraper and a little paint stripper (thanks John)

Dave took photos for proof but hasn't sent them to me yet.

Despite the look of the rest of the car the floor pan is remarkable straight and rust free, sills even look spot on hardly a mark on the metal

More work tomorrow or Tuesday now my arm has recovered!!!