Sporto anyone?

[MrUpwey]

Familiar scenario Pete. I bought mine in 2001 sight unseen (apart from photos) from very reputable seller in Adelaide....a bloke called Chris. Luckily for me it was by referral and was never advertised in public domain.

[Terminator]

Agree with you Nick. Car was definitely Aus delivered as confirmed by Hugh. Although I estimated just from the photos that it needed at least $25k of body work. Full respray, panel damage rear quarter, door and front. Also not knowing what the mechanicals are like.

Peter don't feel too bad unless you were prepared to throw plenty at it you are better off missing the deal, it needs plenty by the looks of it to me and from what I have heard, seen and read

Its coming to Vic won't be saying any more than that.

[PD Targa]

It's all good Clyde. Next one.

[e72phil]

Its the quick and the dead in the early 911 market and you have to be prepared to move fast and possibly take a risk. Maybe you should have locked in a contract with a cash deposit and the balance "subject to inspection".

I thought it sounded like a good deal at the price but I have enough cars already.

[DJ911]

Its coming to Vic won't be saying any more than that.

Cleared some space in the attic then Clyde?

[PD Targa]

Its the quick and the dead in the early 911 market and you have to be prepared to move fast and possibly take a risk. Maybe you should have locked in a contract with a cash deposit and the balance "subject to inspection".

I thought it sounded like a good deal at the price but I have enough cars already.

That's what annoyed me Phil about the seller. I offered a deposit and the response was 'no need, happy to hold it until Sundays inspection'. I guess when he received the call on Saturday and an unconditional offer was made by the new owner, he took it.

[e72phil]

Who knows how many calls he got on it and he obviously was after a quick sale; which he got.

A lesson learnt I am sure. Were you after a new "project" car ? Sounds like it did need some work on it. Will be interesting to see where it surfaces and what actually needs to get done to it.

[Terminator]

That's what annoyed me Phil about the seller. I offered a deposit and the response was 'no need, happy to hold it until Sundays inspection'. I guess when he received the call on Saturday and an unconditional offer was made by the new owner, he took it.

Yeah maybe a call back to you was in order saying I have had an offer at full price right now do you want to match and its yours.

You wouldn't have believed him anyway if he had said that.

Cheers

[Terminator]

Cleared some space in the attic then Clyde?

Definately not me, I missed all the posts until after the sale when I saw the pics I wasn't sad I had not seen the first posts and I don't like sportos

[JulianG]

Mmmm, the thread is making me a little nervous.....for several reasons.....the 69T I bought....sight unseen......and the price of an engine rebuild discussed in another post. It arrives at Spencer Harris's on Thursday.

Whilst I've seen many discussions around the pricing of engine rebuilds, and aren't completely surprised by the prices mentioned here and in other threads, I'm still finding it difficult to understand the total......would somebody be able to breakdown where the cost lies, ie in parts, labour(surely this couldn't be for more than 20-30 (tops) hours), machining etc?
Thanks
Julian

[markymark_1968]

Mmmm, the thread is making me a little nervous.....for several reasons.....the 69T I bought....sight unseen......and the price of an engine rebuild discussed in another post. It arrives at Spencer Harris's on Thursday.

Whilst I've seen many discussions around the pricing of engine rebuilds, and aren't completely surprised by the prices mentioned here and in other threads, I'm still finding it difficult to understand the total......would somebody be able to breakdown where the cost lies, ie in parts, labour(surely this couldn't be for more than 20-30 (tops) hours), machining etc?
Thanks
Julian

Julian, as a recent benefactor of a full rebuild for my '69T, I can say that it really depends on what needs doing as to what the bottom line will be. In my case, my car required a fairly extensive rebuild, and as it stands the labour costs were just a quarter of the total bill. Because I wanted to fit nickie barrels, heads & pistons, I needed to source a secondhand crankshaft rather than regrind the one I had, so already we're at about $6k (incl. nickies, heads, pistons etc), add gasket set @ $500, rebuild clutch, starter motor & an array of other stuff that is worth doing once you have a motor out of the car & i doesn't take long to run up a decent bill. Countless sundries like valve guides, bearings, sealants, nuts, bolts, clamps etc all add up quickly, too!

The bottom line is that as long as you get the right person to rebuild the motor to start with - same as with body work, (and you are using one of the BEST in the business in Spencer) you will never look back! Happy to chat with you more about this via PM if you like, as I'm not sure its such good form discussing specifics on the forum.

[9er]

I reckon the last set of exhaust valves I bought were $800.
As Mark says, if you need new camshafts, timing chains and sprockets and rockers needed machining etc. etc. it can get ugly very quickly.

[npvpositive]

My experience with the 2.2S rebuild is that the price can swing up fairly dramatically if you discover important parts that cannot be reused. That is, the machine shop can't just resurface them or rebalance them . . . they must be replaced. Examples where you could get bad news:

-Crank shaft
-Cam shaft
-Rods
-Pistons
-Cylinder heads and valves
-Barrels
-Oil pump

[Fishcop]

This is why so many engines and chassis have been separated over the years - it was easier and cheaper to find a running motor and just replace. Now we're at a cross road where the value of the car is kept by ensuring engine stays with the chassis, and that can mean pretty expensive rebuilds... This is another reason why values of good cars are climbing steeply! Even the lowly "Tee"

FWIW, you can still use a replacement engine and have many happy years of driving whilst you quietly rebuild the original case at your own pace and as budget allows (this is what is happening on my 69). There are also lots of components that have been reproduced very well and that are pretty much invisible which can keep costs down such as pistons, camshafts, fastening hardware and hardlines. As the other guys have mentioned, a great mechanic/engineer is key to the process.

Before you fall into a great depression and suffer remorse; wait for Spencer to assess it properly and offer you unbiased advice. Other than catastrophic failures, the great thing about these old cars is that they can be nursed and you can limp on for a long time

[Terminator]

I was at Auto Coupe today collecting some parts from Darren.

I casually asked what a full rebuild using new pistons and barrells was typically going for these days $30k plus was the answer.

If a car needs engine AND gearbox as the $30k is engine only, plus paint ($20k - $40k depending on rust issues) and interior/wheels external trim and so on and so on not going to be much change of out of $100k if you do it all correctly and without personnel input like John was able to do.