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It's also the top selling Porsche in the USA! My 56 year old wife has decided that Clarkson is a F###wit, strong words indeed. Porsche should refuse them access to their cars. Yet again decided that TG is a waste of time.
I spoke with my friend at PCNA last month and they are selling heaps, with approximately 2/3rd's of the buyers new to the brand. So in that regard the car is a resounding success.
Clarkson - is an entertaining plonker / circus clown... I seldom agree with him, but he seems to make the show, along with the rapport he has with Captain Slow and the Hamster.
As a closet Jensen Interceptor Lover - I like the look of the Pamamera.
It's certainly not pretty, but it's bold and has undeniable presence, history may repeat itself here, didn't people think the 928 was ugly....!
Tom Walstab Member #142 911L Silver 1968
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Interestingly Clarkson and both the others hated the interior controls and said they couldnt figure out how to do anything, yet they all decided they wanted this car out of the three there. Also after bagging the Panamera at the outset, they suddently liked the fact it was the quickest by far.
So for someone like Clarkson who forever goes on about speed, go figure why he hated the Porsche so much. It in his genes that he's Porschephobic. Has shown this many times.
Typical pommy git who seems to think his English cars are world class.
I say, put him back into that Reliant Robin and weld the doors shut.
sigpicPhil Lack
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'72 911E 2.4 Coupe (SOLD)
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Clarkson is opinionated but that is part of show's success. His newspaper columns are the same but he has found a loyal readership. I think people actually like someone who tells it like he sees it even if it is a biased opinion.
BMW tried to stop them getting cars but topgear just went and bought a new car, tested it and then sold it. When you are one of the highest rating BBC shows you have a big budget.
He is patriotic which is just as well for the British car industry. Without people like him the Brits wouldn't have an industry today.
As for the Panamera, I still don't like it but then again I can't think of any current luxury sedan that looks great. The hatch rear just doesn't work on a big car. They should have stuck with a more conventional sedan profile.
I know a guy with a 997 turbo cab who had a turbo Cayene as a family wagon for his wife and 1 child but he now has a Panamera turbo. It will be interesting to see if this is common and robs sales of the Cayene which has been Porsche's savior in recent years.
Jeff Eelkema
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Porsche have sold more than 270,000 Cayennes since 2002 and have a new model to keep the momentum going. Can't see that many panameras, but who knows. To stir the pot further, here are two predictions -1. new base model with 2 litre turbo from VW and 2. V8 into the 911, flat six gone.
Paul M.
Tom Walstab Member #142 911L Silver 1968
911T Colour? 1969 Work in progress
928GTS Iris Blue 1995
911 997 Targa 4S Black
Ford Ranger 4x4 Silver
Arrow 125cc Rotax GoKart
Yes, Clarkson is opinionated about a number of things, Porsche generally is one of those. In regards to the looks of the Panamera it certainly polarizes opinion. Porsche over the years have in the main prioritized function over form (928, 914, Cayanne & even the 911 in certain variants are not for everyone). I think this is one good example were good German engineering takes priority. I have had the pleasure of driving one of these beasts in S form and must say it did not disappoint!
Costas
95 993 Carrera Coupe
& a lesser 14 Audi A6 Quattro 3.0L TDI bi turbo (Daily Drive)
Tom, why not,but expensive. Porsche can use the existing V8. But my"feeling" is to either mid engine or front engine the V8, easy for Porsche to do in either case. You know, I've just realised it's a 928GTS in 911 clothing.
Paul M.
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