Had a bit of a fright today

[Polizei]

As many of you know I am in the process of buying this black 911T in Adelaide.

I was reviewing some info the seller had given me and came across the engine number - 6144698. Hang on!!

The car was described as having a 2.2, recently built, ? original motor.

This number correlated with a K-Jetronic 2.7.

Previously had checked up on the chassis number, but should have checked the engine number from the get go - silly mistake.

Anyway to cut a long story short, I ended up going around and looking at it again and took some photos. The reason why I believe that it was recorded incorrectly is because there is some oxidation/corrosion here and the original '1' was not very distinct. At some stage someone had tried to scratch the '1' to make it more legible.

I have attached some photos so you guys can give your opinions if you think this is legit vs dodgy. Also based on these numbers can you tell if it is the original engine, or does one have to contact porsche?

The actual numbers are (which I believe do correlate with '71 T):
Engine serial number - 6114698
Engine type number - 911/07
Chassis number - 9111120589

[Polizei]

and the engine bay...

[John S]

Hi Polizei, eng.#6114698 is correct for '71 911T, whether it is correct for mentioned chassis number can be confirmed by Porsche Aus. You can call a fellow named Jason (forgott his surname) at Porsche Aus. on 03 94730911 in the technical dep. He will be able to confirm only, not tell you what the correct numbers should be. Good Luck!

ps. welcome to typ901!!

cheers

[e72phil]

Hi Ed,

Porsche Cars Aust are tightening up on this sort of info and MAY only hand out that data if you can showe you are the legitimate owner of the car. At least I know they wont supply any written statement about original numbers and delivery options unless you're the owner.

Maybe they will advise as per Johns comments but having recently spoken with them (last week), they were talking about showing documentary proof to them before they would oblige with written info about the car (similar to the so-called C of A as provided in the USA by PCNA.)

[e72phil]

and the engine bay...

Forgot to mention the engine shroud is the wrong colour also. Red is for S engines. Yours should be yellow, (or is it black for a 2.2 T engine ?).

[SIR70t]

black for a 2.2T ROW and yellow for the 73.5 (or 72) 2.4 MFI T (USA) I think

[e72phil]

Yes, I have seen 72 and 73 US 911T's with yellow shrouds. I think all E's were green no matter where they were delivered.

[Polizei]

So if I understand correctly, a US 2.2T would be a rest of world car, which should therefore have a black engine shroud.

[epilot]

Jason Pasco at PCM is the man to talk to. As John says he will confirm the info you give him and once you provide proof of purchase he will provide a birth certificate like the one attached for my E project.

[e72phil]

So if I understand correctly, a US 2.2T would be a rest of world car, which should therefore have a black engine shroud.

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Ed, you need to understand, there is the good ole' US of A, and then there is the Rest of World (ROW). Thats apparently how we see the differentiation on various books that discuss engine and VIN numbers etc.

I am not sure about if there was a transition of colours of the engine shroud from 2.2 to 2.4 engines. Anyone else know ??

[Polizei]

Thats funny, for some reason I was thinking Germany and ROW.

In hindsight that obviously doesn't make sense

[Polizei]

Just spoke to Jason Pasco at Porsche as suggested - very helpful.

To my delight this is a matching numbers car.

US delivery

Original colour: light ivory

Options: Impact bumpers, Sports steering wheel with leather

He is going to send me an official letter.

No proof of ownership required

[e72phil]

Nice to get something for free from Porsche these days, isnt it ?

[Terminator]

You'll sleep better now also.

I remember 1 Richard Griffths having the same sort of heart attacks at one stage till we set him staright

[griffiths_r]

hmmm... i think that was mostly due to the fact that on the micro film, porsche has the transmission number listed as the engine number!!!!