Window regulator removal and replace

[Terminator]

Passenger side surprise, surprise has a stuffed window regulator how do I get it out and how do I replace it???

[Fishcop]

Recently pulled mine for the repaint.

You'll need to loosen and remove the frames (or at least pull them a fair way out) - the allen bolts on the forward and aft ends of the door. Remove your door cards and you'll be able to see the 3-4 bolts securing the regulator. You'll also see how to remove the glass, there's two 'lugs' that fit in a slot and hole arrangement. You need to take the glass out. Regulator then comes out through the large aperture in the door.

Clear as mud?

[e72phil]

Clyde, you may need to rebuild it as used regulators usually have the same problems. Remember your passenger side used to be drivers side and got the most use.

[Terminator]

Clyde, you may need to rebuild it as used regulators usually have the same problems. Remember your passenger side used to be drivers side and got the most use.

this used to be the passenger side and is now drivers side.

[e72phil]

So is it now the LHD drivers side or RHD passenger side ? Maybe they also swapped the doors around during the conversion ?
There's that darned LHD/RHD argument creeping back in there again.....

[Terminator]

Its the RHS of the car I have worked on it this afternoon and when you wind the window instead of the plastic guides sliding along and the window going up the arms want to twist which stops the guides from sliding and hence the window is very difficult to move

I don't think its anything to do with the frame as there isn't really any adjustment there except a bit on the angle on the door lock side.

Maybe the sliders are stuffed or something else is causing them to not slide properly.

Anyone got any clues???

Door swap Phil.........think about it not possible.

[Terminator]

Its the RHS of the car I have worked on it this afternoon and when you wind the window instead of the plastic guides sliding along and the window going up the arms want to twist which stops the guides from sliding and hence the window is very difficult to move

I don't think its anything to do with the frame as there isn't really any adjustment there except a bit on the angle on the door lock side.

Maybe the sliders are stuffed or something else is causing them to not slide properly.

Anyone got any clues???

Door swap Phil.........think about it not possible.

Can you adjust the angle of the glass somehow that I can't see as that is the problem I think binding in the channel on one side while nearly out of the channel on the other side.

[Fishcop]

You can certainly adjust the alloy frames in the door - which should in turn adjust the glass angle...

[Terminator]

You can certainly adjust the alloy frames in the door - which should in turn adjust the glass angle...

How as they bolt in the same place very time so I can't figure how they can be adjusted??

[Classic]

Clyde,

My understanding is you have to fit and tighten the frame in a specific order to ensure proper operation of the window.

1. Lower rear most bolt

2. Next lower one at the back of the quarter window

3. Next lower one at the front of the door.

4. Back of door just above the lock

5. Back of door at the top

6. Front of door middle one

7. Front of door just under the quarter window

8. Last one at the back of the quarter window.

Sorry if you already know the order of things, but i found this out after trying to fix a window that would get stuck half way up.

Tony

[Jeff Eelkema]

Not sure about 911s but most cars I have worked on have some adjustment in the bolt holes for the regulator that allows some movement.

Another possible issue is excess fore and aft movement between the glass and frame due to wear in the channel rubbers and or incorrect adjustment of the frame. This allows the glass to tilt a bit which in turn causes it to jam. On some jobs I resorted to using shims between the door and window frame to close up the clearance.

[Terminator]

Clyde,

My understanding is you have to fit and tighten the frame in a specific order to ensure proper operation of the window.

1. Lower rear most bolt

2. Next lower one at the back of the quarter window

3. Next lower one at the front of the door.

4. Back of door just above the lock

5. Back of door at the top

6. Front of door middle one

7. Front of door just under the quarter window

8. Last one at the back of the quarter window.

Sorry if you already know the order of things, but i found this out after trying to fix a window that would get stuck half way up.

Tony

News to me so thanks I'll follow that order if I can get the bloody window to stay straight to start with in a totally loose frame.

Gees I hope it wasn't trial and error that got you to that point!!!

[Terminator]

Not sure about 911s but most cars I have worked on have some adjustment in the bolt holes for the regulator that allows some movement.

Another possible issue is excess fore and aft movement between the glass and frame due to wear in the channel rubbers and or incorrect adjustment of the frame. This allows the glass to tilt a bit which in turn causes it to jam. On some jobs I resorted to using shims between the door and window frame to close up the clearance.

Found the adjusting bolt that allows the window to tilt one way or the other.

Problem is I think that the arms on the regualtor may be bent as this obviously hace been a problem for a whwile and forcing the window down and up again may have cause this distortion.

Looks like only way to find out is put a perfect working one from the 69 in to see what happens...a pain but lucky I can do that before buying and wasting money on a new regulator that isn't the cause!

[Classic]

A little bit of trial and error until I got the work shop manuals.

I just checked it for you and the earlier post is correct in the order that they say to do them up. As Jeff said there is a small amount of adjustment in the bolts.

For your reference the fitment of the window frame is in the body section of the factory manuals.

I just checked MY69 window regulators and both arms are straight.

Tony

[Fishcop]

RHS for sale

http://www.early911sregistry.org/forums/showthread.php?66510-FS-RH-door-glass-winder-built-11.71