2.4 versus 2.2 values

[npvpositive]

Interesting looking at the recent sale prices that Dirk posted in the insurance thread.

I know I'm totally biased but it surprises me that the 2.4S seems to sell for such a large premium over the 2.2S. Whenever a Porsche magazine or book does a comparison the 2.2S always wins, but the market pays more--a lot more-- for the 2.4S.

For example, this month 911 & Porsche World ranked the 2.2S as the 10th best car Porsche ever built . . . they ranked the 2.4S at number 17. And last year Total 911 did that "Super 911S" cover story where they compared a 2.0S, 2.2S and 2.4S . . . and decided they liked the 2.2S best.

And yet . . . the market pays much more for the 2.4. Go figure.

[Fishcop]

What were the build numbers? It may be about the actual number of cars available?

[Michel]

I believe There were 46 RHD 2.4s targas built in 1973 ?

[npvpositive]

Numbers were ridiculously low for both vintages so I doubt that's the reason. In Australia, S-model deliveries were:

1970: 14
1971: 12
1972: 6
1973: 15

I suspect it's more about a view that newer and bigger must be better. 1972/1973 with 2.4 is the last of the longhoods and has a bigger engine . . . so collectors have decided it must be worth the most. Personally I prefer 72 over 73 because you get the oil fill door and the chrome . . . with only six cars delivered an Aussie 72S is pretty much a unicorn now.

[reedminor]

I think the classic car magazines have a lot to do with it too.

The journos have a modicum of knowledge but not a depth of knowledge, well most of them anyway.

I remember reading articles 10 or so years ago and they would rave about lwb 2.4's, and make disparaging remarks about swb cars not having even driven them i suspect!

They were also the lead in to the Rs, and just as in real estate, there is a ripple effect. If one cannot afford the Harbourside digs in or around kirribilli they look elsewhere, but close.

[Banksy]

It's a bit like the derision heaped on the much maligned sporto box. Most people have never driven one but will heap scorn on them. My 74S with sporto went like stink. Very fast gear changing.

[ELSPORTO]

It's a bit like the derision heaped on the much maligned sporto box. Most people have never driven one but will heap scorn on them. My 74S with sporto went like stink. Very fast gear changing.

Amen!

[AdamGill]

Numbers were ridiculously low for both vintages so I doubt that's the reason. In Australia, S-model deliveries were:

1970: 14
1971: 12
1972: 6
1973: 15

I suspect it's more about a view that newer and bigger must be better. 1972/1973 with 2.4 is the last of the longhoods and has a bigger engine . . . so collectors have decided it must be worth the most. Personally I prefer 72 over 73 because you get the oil fill door and the chrome . . . with only six cars delivered an Aussie 72S is pretty much a unicorn now.

Damm ... My dream of owning a 72S is more distant than I thought! Are all the 6 cars accounted for?

Cheers
Adam

[npvpositive]

Damm ... My dream of owning a 72S is more distant than I thought! Are all the 6 cars accounted for?

Cheers
Adam

Hugh may know where some of them are? Likely that some of the 6 cars have been wrecked or shipped to England over the years . . . I don't think I've ever seen an Aussie delivered 72S in the flesh.

[PD Targa]

Hugh may know where some of them are? Likely that some of the 6 cars have been wrecked or shipped to England over the years . . . I don't think I've ever seen an Aussie delivered 72S in the flesh.

Nick, this 72s was up for sale a couple of years ago.

http://www.typ901.org/showthread.php?t=4417&highlight=1972

[HughH]

Of the 6 4 were 5 sp, one a 4 sp and one a sporto.

There is a silver on in Melbourne , was originally a four speed, that is the one peter Posted the link to

of the 4 5sp cars one orange one I don't know anything about, one yellow one was in an accident back in the day and converted to a rally car in south Australia but I don't know where that is presently, one viper green car was converted before delivery to a RS look a like with all the real bits and is still around - the last time I saw it it was on Victorian plates at Phillip island historic races. The silver one was for sale at cts in 2012 and I think I saw it on Victorian plates in Melbourne earlier this year

The last one was a sporto. I am not certain but i think that an Albert blue car that was in Queensland until recently may be australian delivered and the elusive sporto which I don't have any records for

[AdamGill]

Of the 6 4 were 5 sp, one a 4 sp and one a sporto.

There is a silver on in Melbourne , was originally a four speed, that is the one peter Posted the link to

of the 4 5sp cars one orange one I don't know anything about, one yellow one was in an accident back in the day and converted to a rally car in south Australia but I don't know where that is presently, one viper green car was converted before delivery to a RS look a like with all the real bits and is still around - the last time I saw it it was on Victorian plates at Phillip island historic races. The silver one was for sale at cts in 2012 and I think I saw it on Victorian plates in Melbourne earlier this year

The last one was a sporto. I am not certain but i think that an Albert blue car that was in Queensland until recently may be australian delivered and the elusive sporto which I don't have any records for

Thanks Hugh!