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That's the truth isn't it. Those of us that own and look after these cars know fully the work, time and effort in these vehicles... You just can't (and sometimes don't want to) make others understand and appreciate what they're getting.
I started a spreadsheet on mine a few years ago. Very quickly I password protected it lest my Minister of Finance discover the real dollar value.
God's honest truth; my spreadsheet clearly demonstrates that I should have stoned up $50k in 2000 for the really nice unmolested 3 owner 911S that lived nearby rather than the $22k I spent on my average and abused 911T sporto and the $25k of improvement it's since had
We know Tim and Cam's cars will eventually move, but in the mean time it must be very frustrating.
John Forcier 1969 2.7RS spec 911B(astard) 1968 2.0S spec 911 Race Car Restoration Saga
1962 CB77 P3 TT Race Bike (looking for another engine)
John, you would likely have still to do similar rust repairs, and no doubt other mechanical work to the 'S' over time anyway. It's market value would be much greater but that just means you'd think twice about how hard you'd drive it.
Paul Wischer
1969 911T
1979 Californian Moke
TYP 901 Register Member #77
John, you would likely have still to do similar rust repairs, and no doubt other mechanical work to the 'S' over time anyway. It's market value would be much greater but that just means you'd think twice about how hard you'd drive it.
Thanks Paul, you've articulated exactly my reasons for sticking with my T and creating the bespoke set of wheels I always wanted and driving where and how I please. I'm no Magnus/Tilton/Bosworth/Nielsen et al, but I'm loving the build process and not feeling bad about "ruining another irreplaceable 901"...
I can guarantee any lurkers that you will not build a car like Cam or Tim's for the money they're on offer for...
John Forcier 1969 2.7RS spec 911B(astard) 1968 2.0S spec 911 Race Car Restoration Saga
1962 CB77 P3 TT Race Bike (looking for another engine)
Having owned my car for 12 months now I can certainly see how both Tim and Cam's car could not be created for anything near their asking price.
So obviously buyers are thin on he ground.
Is the general consensus that this is more the case for sport/racing purpose cars or does this also apply to cars that are more original (at least in aesthetics)?
The reason I ask is that when I was lurking, in hunt of a car, I considered originality very important. Now the more I become immersed in 901 ownership this is less of an issue for me. If I were in the market (and I am not - sorry gents) I may well now be a different kind of buyer.
Original cars appeal to a wider range of buyers, once you create something different, whether it be a homage or a bespoke race car the pool of buyers reduces considerably.
Having said that, original cars are staying on the market for a long time, I think the silver Australian delivered SWB with red interior that has been mentioned here a couple of times stands out.
Great feedback guys. Thanks. I know its a pretty tough market out there, so I will remain patient. These specialised cars are a little more difficult for sure. It's a shame that the Carrera 3.0 has turned out so well, otherwise I would have just moved that instead!
John, as usual your offers are very generous, but I will have to pass.
Chris, the idea of a road car could appeal. I would certainly prefer one race car and a road car as opposed to two race cars!!
Having owned my car for 12 months now I can certainly see how both Tim and Cam's car could not be created for anything near their asking price.
So obviously buyers are thin on he ground.
Is the general consensus that this is more the case for sport/racing purpose cars or does this also apply to cars that are more original (at least in aesthetics)?
The reason I ask is that when I was lurking, in hunt of a car, I considered originality very important. Now the more I become immersed in 901 ownership this is less of an issue for me. If I were in the market (and I am not - sorry gents) I may well now be a different kind of buyer.
Think you hit the nail on the head.
Sport purpose cars are hard to sell....period....despite both being visually great cars and mechanically probably even better.
There are a few examples of that on this site e.g the black car recently advertised.
I think many first time Porsche buyers want original as it gives comfort to the new owner that the car has been looked after previously as opposed to raced...although that view could be completely false.
Clyde Boyer
TYP 901 Register Inc.
President
Early S Register Member #294
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